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Post by Brad (Texas Hellfire) on May 19, 2008 10:34:44 GMT -6
The scheduling and playoff structure has not been determined for the league yet. Chris and I were talking about it and here is the idea that we like best, but we wanted to get feedback from the existing league membership.
Regular Season - The 10-team, 2-Division (AFC/NFC) perfectly balanced schedule. Odd numbered picks in the initial draft would be designated NFC, even numbered picks would be designated AFC. Odd/even determined by draftpicklottery.com. Each team will play each team in their own division twice (8 games) and each team in the opposite division once (5 games) . . . this gives us a perfectly balanced 13-week regular season.
Playoffs Week 1 (NFL Week 14)- The top two teams in each division play a one week game for the chance to go to the USFL Championship and be declared either NFC or AFC champ for that year. Overall record will be the first determining factor in the standings with the following tiebreakers in this order - head-to-head record, division record, total fantasy points. In the case that two teams are tied in all four categories and one team would miss the playoffs a coin toss will be used to determine the playoff team.
Championship Game (NFL Weeks 15 and 16) - The USFL championship is a two-week cumulative score contest between the AFC and NFC champs where lineups can be changed between weeks as normal. That is, your week one championship lineup is not locked in as your week two championship lineup. Total score over two weeks will determine the league champion.
Free Agency Lockdown Period - All league rosters will lock down for Free Agent acquisitions on at 12:01 am Thursday of Championship Game Week 1. Free Agency will not re-open until after the next rookie/FA draft. Trading will be allowed at all times and even during the two-week Championship Game, but teams playing in the Championship Game will not have their trades take effect until after the Championship Game is concluded.
What do you all think of that schedule/setup for the league?
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Post by Neil (OC Outlaws) on May 19, 2008 22:02:24 GMT -6
Never seen the two week championship....but I really like it. What a concept!!
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2008 23:54:11 GMT -6
I've played in a 2 week Championship scenario, 1 season in my money league. Even though I won the Title, I thought that format was completely retarded. After the 1 season, the whole league, including myself voted against it.
What about having week 14 a wildcard round, so the top 6, rather than top 4 teams make the playoffs, and the 2 division winners get the bye while the 3-6 seeds play. Then the semi-final is week 15, and the Championship is week 16? Just a thought.
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Post by slackers on May 20, 2008 0:09:13 GMT -6
I agree with JD on the Wild Card round, Just a thought you could still have a 2 week championship if you use week 17.
With a 30 man roster you should be able to manage a starting line up in week 17, would make a complete Champion by utilizing your whole line up to win.
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Post by johnboora on May 20, 2008 8:52:13 GMT -6
I've never done a 2 week championship so I'll defer to the guys who have. I have played a week 17 championship before though and that is annoying as hell, especially when someone like .....ohhhhh......Mike Shanahan decides that he won't inform the media he'll be sitting Terrell Davis and then decides to do so on gameday.
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2008 12:01:55 GMT -6
Actually, I forgot to mention that our 2 week Championship was wks 16-17, not 15-16. Before that season, we had our Championship on wk 17 only, for 3 years, and I am firmly oppossed to either of those formats because a team who had a stellar draft and made wonderful trades will be penalized for making it to the Championship, as their studs all sit out wk 17.
The Championship game should be 1 weekend (week 16).
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Post by Brad (Texas Hellfire) on May 20, 2008 14:09:32 GMT -6
We went with the 2 week championship game simply because we thought letting 6 teams out of ten into the playoffs was ridiculous. We also thought that ending the fantasy season in week 15 was lame. So we tossed around the idea of a two week championship and we liked it.
Other possibilities:
1) expand to 12 teams and let 6 teams into the playoffs, still play two divisional games, but only play three games against the other division . . . some teams may get a lucky break in getting a wild card/bye because of inter-division match-ups
2) stay at 10 teams and 4 into the playoffs, but add a second game against one opposite division foe with the same unbalanced problem as #1
3)stay with 10 teams and 3 from each division make the playoffs with champs getting a bye. If you don't mind a possible sub-.500 team getting hot and winning the whole thing.
4) Things as they are with a two week championship.
What does everyone think would be the most fun? Obviously option #3 would keep more people in the race for longer. I even like the expansion idea . . . actually I like all the ideas, since they were mine . . . time for league opinions!!
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Post by Peter (Swamp Dragons) on May 20, 2008 14:23:34 GMT -6
What if we do #3...add two more teams and the top team from each division get a bye week? Just a thought.
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Post by Chris (RI Irish) on May 20, 2008 14:26:32 GMT -6
My opinion on this is it doesn't really matter to me if we have 10 or 12 teams. My only thing is that I DO NOT like the idea of having 6 teams make the playoffs in a 10 team league. I think that is to many. You would then probably end up having teams with a losing record in the playoffs which is not good.
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Post by Bill (Fog City Force) on May 20, 2008 14:32:16 GMT -6
Brad,
How about this, which is the format I do in another (10) team league I'm in:
(2) divisions of (5). Team with best record in each division is awarded a bye. The other (4) teams are actually all still in the playoffs (DON'T LAUGH, follow this through). The top (2) are in the winners bracket, the bottom (2) are in the losers bracket. Important to understand that you can never move out of losers bracket!
So week # 14 (First week of playoffs), top (2) teams per division play each other in winners bracket, while next (2) play in losers bracket, this goes on in both divisions. The loser in the losers bracket drops out, the loser in winners bracket drops into the losers bracket. Once again, this is going on in both divisions.
Week # 15 - Bye week hosts the winner of the winners bracket, while last weeks loser of the winners bracket now hosts the winner of the losers bracket. (Obviously in both divisions)
Finally, Week # 16: (divisions now play one another)
Fantasy Bowl:
Winners of each divisions winners bracket from week # 15 play each other for all the marbles.
Consolation Bowl:
Losers of each divisions winners bracket from week # 15 play each other.
Toilet Bowl:
Finally, the winners from each divisions week # 15 losers bracket battle each other!
Admittedly, it seems as though everyone is making it into the playoffs, therefore not rewarding the guy who kicked ass all season, however, since you are never able to move out of the losers bracket, (4) teams are actually eliminated from top prize after the week # 13 regular season ends!
This also seems to avoid owners from losing interest if the struggle for a few games during the season, and soon realize they have no shot?
It has been a successful method for us for several years...
Just a thought,
Fog City Force
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Post by benyamen on May 20, 2008 15:11:31 GMT -6
I have to say I like the idea of expanding to 12 teams instead of 10 and letting six teams into the playoffs.
The way my current league runs the playoffs is this:
Playoffs begin in week 14 with wildcard weekend, the conference championships in week 15, and the Superbowl in week 16. The top two teams in each conference will make the playoffs and the two teams with the best record, not finishing in the top two in either conference will be wildcard entries. Week 14 will feature the second place team in each conference playing off against a wildcard team (2 vs wildcard; 2 vs wildcard), with each division champion receiving a bye into the conference championship in week 15. The week 15 Conference Championships will feature division champions playing off against the winners from wildcard weekend(1 v week 14 winner; 1 v week 14 winner). The Superbowl in week 16 will then feature the winners from the Conference Championships from week 15 (NFC champ v AFC champ).
It's worked out really well for us so far and it makes sure the teams with the best records basically get in. It helps deal with the possibility of one division being significantly weaker than another too.
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Post by Brad (Texas Hellfire) on May 20, 2008 15:13:11 GMT -6
What if we do #3...add two more teams and the top team from each division get a bye week? Just a thought. That's option #1 . . . and I bet Benyamen is all for it  |
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Post by benyamen on May 20, 2008 15:14:38 GMT -6
Yes, I guess I could humbly accept option 1. ;D
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Post by Brad (Texas Hellfire) on May 20, 2008 15:28:18 GMT -6
I do like Bill's (Fog City) idea, but it is basically option #3 with some window dressing and Chris (Rock Island), who asked me if I wanted to co-commish this league with him is firmly against 60% of the league making the playoffs with a chance to get to the championship.
So far I will admit that expanding to 12 teams and keeping the divisions separate really appeals to me. What Chris and I are leaning toward saying is good is this.
12 teams; 2 six team divisions; you play 2 division games with each team and only three games against the other division at all (more like AL/NL than AFC/NFC); the top three teams from each division make the playoffs and they only play within their division until the Championship. League leader gets a first rond bye while 2 and 3 battle it out for the right to play them. Then in week 15 the bye teams play the winners from their own division. Week 16 is the championship, AFC vs. NFC.
Thoughts?
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Post by Peter (Swamp Dragons) on May 20, 2008 15:30:34 GMT -6
It really doesn't matter to me how many teams. Both my other leagues are 12. Just wondering what type of players you get in rounds in 29 and 30 of a 10 team draft? And would those people really be that different from the same picks in a 12 team draft? Just a thought.
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