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Post by Brad (Texas Hellfire) on Mar 13, 2009 17:09:23 GMT -6
Feel free to discuss here . . . we may put it to a vote later.
Changes, if made, will not go into effect until after the 2009 draft is complete.
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Post by Neil (OC Outlaws) on Mar 13, 2009 17:35:11 GMT -6
Trading of next year's draft picks shouldn't be allowed until the current year's draft commences. That will allow teams who do not have the draft picks they desire to mortgage next year's picks to attain a current year pick or player.
Trading beyond next year's picks (i.e. 2011 and beyond with this being 2009) should not be permitted under any circumstances for the reasons outlined in the League Rules and the general feelings of the other teams.
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Post by Chris (RI Irish) on Mar 13, 2009 17:42:12 GMT -6
I think it should be ok to trade next years draft picks. I would think of setting a date saying that is the starting day that next years picks are allowed to be traded. For example, saying that on April 1 you are now allowed to trade 2010 draft picks. If teams want to trade away there picks that is there option. If they want to mortgage there future,fine by me.  |
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Post by Bill (Fog City Force) on Mar 13, 2009 17:46:13 GMT -6
I agree that the start of the draft should be the trigger to trade picks for the following year, it's very easy that way, don't have to remember dates or anything...Keep it simple!
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Post by Chris (RI Irish) on Mar 13, 2009 17:49:42 GMT -6
It shouldn't be hard for you to remember April 1st. I would think that you would be able to remember your holiday!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2009 18:03:31 GMT -6
You know what... I'm actually good with it either way. We shouldn't be able to negotiate draft picks beyond the following year though ( ie: now is 2009, following year is 2010 )
I don't get a kick out of trading enough to be upset by rules.
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Post by Bill (Fog City Force) on Mar 13, 2009 21:55:58 GMT -6
It shouldn't be hard for you to remember April 1st. I would think that you would be able to remember your holiday! whatever, we are saying the same thing essentially... |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2009 2:06:44 GMT -6
I am a huge proponent of any rule change occuring the following season. That's the only way it can be. My argument for allowing the overturned trade was the potential for misinterpreting the wording of the rules because of the 2008 initial league draft being used not as an example but as part of the rule of draft pick trading. Thought I'd try to get another angle to allow the trade because I honestly didn't know we couldn't trade 2010 draft picks until after this upcoming draft  , and I was a little flustered when I found out via the ever studious Gregg. We have had a very wide open trade policy, w/ a few necessary rules. That was made obvious throughout last offseason and season because there were plenty of lopsided trades that were not disputed by anyone. Part of that wide open policy should be the freedom to mortgage your team's future. I think we should be able to trade draft picks from the next 2 drafts, at any point and time in the offseason/season (not including playoffs), and during a draft, that would mean picks from the following 2 drafts at the start of the current draft, not the end. This would go into effect after this draft, so we should immediately be able to trade 2010 and 2011 draft picks at the conclusion of this 2009 draft. When the 2010 draft begins, we should be able to trade 2011 and 2012 draft picks. I would say the next 3 drafts but the "paperwork" could start to get difficult for our wonderful Commissioners. The absolute least we can agree on is allowing trades for the following draft's picks to occur at the start of the current draft, not the conclusion of it. This would go into effect for the 2010 draft. Those are my thoughts.  |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2009 7:13:05 GMT -6
i say leave it as is. you cant trade 2010 picks until the 2009 draft is completed...not commenced...completed. its just not fair for people to start trading away picks for next years draft to get someone they want this year. what happens if the league for some reason falls apart after the 2009 season for whatever reason...the team that received an "incentive" 2010 pick to push a trade over the edge, really just got screwed. i rather just leave it as is
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Post by Chris (RI Irish) on Mar 15, 2009 7:48:47 GMT -6
Teams trade away next years draft picks all the time during the NFL draft to get players they want this year. I don't see any problem with doing that. However,I do not think we should be allowed to trade away draft picks for more than one season.(2010 picks ok to trade but not 2011) I am just afraid if we have owners leave the league I don't want the new owners not to have draft picks.
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Post by Gregg(Seal Fuckers) on Mar 15, 2009 10:51:08 GMT -6
Teams trade away next years draft picks all the time during the NFL draft to get players they want this year. I don't see any problem with doing that. However,I do not think we should be allowed to trade away draft picks for more than one season.(2010 picks ok to trade but not 2011) I am just afraid if we have owners leave the league I don't want the new owners not to have draft picks. teams also trade picks past the next year too. your trying to have your cake and eat it, and thats what silly you people use these as your arguments then your like but not past next year. dont use real life arguments when you only wanna limit what they do in real life |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2009 23:18:45 GMT -6
So anyways...I just wanted to make sure everyone is on the same page, especially the 2 new guys. I believe it was agreed that a team can trade the following year's draft picks, once the current draft begins. There was also the argument to allow following year picks to be available for trading even before the current draft begins.
So when will we officially be able to use 2011 draft picks for trade negotiations? What is the official ruling here?
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Post by Gregg(Seal Fuckers) on Dec 21, 2009 23:23:02 GMT -6
and I was a little flustered when I found out via the ever studious Gregg.
that still makes me laugh james lol
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Post by Brad (Texas Hellfire) on Dec 22, 2009 6:51:50 GMT -6
I think the overall opinion was that 20x+1 draft picks can be traded at the commencement of the 20x draft. We bump that back a little to allow people to make deals before the draft starts for high picks. Maybe 1 week before commencement of the draft. Opinions are still being discussed. I didn't really have a problem with the way it was . . . but I am going with majority rule here.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2010 0:41:50 GMT -6
Just wanted to make sure that we set the official ruling in stone. Are we setting a date before the draft starts, or do we have to wait for the draft to start in order to trade 2011 picks?
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, and I was a little flustered when I found out via the ever studious Gregg.
