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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2009 0:03:08 GMT -6
Another idea involving the 3 division idea would be to eliminate the wild card round of the playoffs and have week 14 be our final regular season game. You play everyone in your division twice, and everyone else once. 3 division winners and 1 wildcard team go to the playoffs.
I'd just like to have the opportunity to play every team at least once every year.
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Post by Neil (OC Outlaws) on Nov 19, 2009 0:16:47 GMT -6
Another idea involving the 3 division idea would be to eliminate the wild card round of the playoffs and have week 14 be our final regular season game. You play everyone in your division twice, and everyone else once. 3 division winners and 1 wildcard team go to the playoffs. I'd just like to have the opportunity to play every team at least once every year. We do this in another one of my leagues. It has its benefits, but it leaves some quality teams out of the playoffs. There always seems to be a crappy division that someone has to win. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2009 0:25:48 GMT -6
Another idea involving the 3 division idea would be to eliminate the wild card round of the playoffs and have week 14 be our final regular season game. You play everyone in your division twice, and everyone else once. 3 division winners and 1 wildcard team go to the playoffs. I'd just like to have the opportunity to play every team at least once every year. We do this in another one of my leagues. It has its benefits, but it leaves some quality teams out of the playoffs. There always seems to be a crappy division that someone has to win. With our current system, Crush got in with a god-awful record last year. |
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Post by Brad (Texas Hellfire) on Nov 20, 2009 7:34:35 GMT -6
The first issue I see with this idea is that there seems to be no functionality on ESPN to allow a double header week or three.
The league was initially set up so that you would play three teams from the other division in one year and play the other three teams the next year. I am not 100% sure that we set up the schedule correctly for this year absed on last year's schedule, but I could envision a switch. With double headers an impossibility with ESPN, but an obvious desire to line out the randomness of the strength of the inter-divisional games then I see some things that we could discuss.
First off I should say that I am not sure that it is really an issue and that not playing the bottom team in a division is not as big a deal as it seems. The second worst team in the division is generally not that much better.
At this time we can take out some of the randomness if you all will agree that previous year's performance should have some bearing on the next year's performance. We can also take scheduling out of the LM's hands and put in a direct rule for determining the inter-division schedule. Something like one of these two:
1st Place in a division plays 1, 3 and 5 from the other division next year while 2nd plays 2, 4 and 6.
For a different balance 1 could play 1, 3, 6 and 2 could play 2, 4, 5 as well. Determining these two matchups determines the entirety of the inter-division schedule.
Given this post and the looking into ESPN functionality I have done what say you now?
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Post by Bill (Fog City Force) on Nov 20, 2009 9:40:28 GMT -6
IMO the thought was more about TRASH TALKING with everyone, it's easier to stay connected if you play every team each year? I like the idea at least if you don't play someone this year, you get them next year. I don't think I get a chance to beat Chuck's ass this year, I sure would welcome the idea of kicking his ass next season!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2009 12:10:51 GMT -6
IMO the thought was more about TRASH TALKING with everyone I don't think that's the reason why James made the suggestion. The SOS issue is one of the biggest downfalls of 12 team leagues. Especially with the playoff format of using weeks 14-16. I really don't think we need to change the playoff format. And I really don't think we should use double headers. I really think the best way to rectify the SOS issue is to go to 3 divisions. It's not perfect, but nothing is in a 12 team league. That's why I love my 14 team money league. We all play each other once. Again, I don't think Brad and Chris' vision for the league was wrong. But in a dynasty format, especially when a couple of teams become a bye week opponent for most of the league ( mine included )... it magnifies the downside of 12 team leagues. |
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Post by Neil (OC Outlaws) on Nov 21, 2009 12:53:27 GMT -6
I'm still in favor of reshuffling the divisions every year, because it inhibits some trades based on who's in your division (i.e. making sure to not strengthen an intradivisional foe). See Chris not trading with James for example this past week. I think reshuffling the divisions would spread the wealth around and shake things up too.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2009 0:11:31 GMT -6
I'm still in favor of reshuffling the divisions every year, because it inhibits some trades based on who's in your division (i.e. making sure to not strengthen an intradivisional foe). See Chris not trading with James for example this past week. I think reshuffling the divisions would spread the wealth around and shake things up too. Funny, I was just thinking about this being the way to solve our issues, not realizing it was already suggested. Reorganizing the divisions is an absolutely wonderful idea. What if 3 or 4 teams in one division suddenly go into rebuilding mode and scrap their team, ala Bulls or Generals? The balance of power would reside in the other division and there would be a really sweet team from that division getting screwed out of the playoffs, while a shitty rebuilding team gets in with a sub-.500 record. Reshuffling of the divisions ensures relative parity every year. When they are reshuffled, the 2 Superbowl teams are in opposite divisions to keep the potential of a SB rematch. While we are at it, I will once again suggest our playoff system go to a wildcard format, starting in the 2010 season. Last year, a 5-8 Crush made the playoffs while a 7-6 Generals got screwed. Furthermore, the Crush were ranked as the 10th best team in the league. That is kind of stupid. The money league I run employs both ideals (annual division reshuffling, wildcard playoff seeds outside of division winners) and they work absolutely beautifully. |
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