IMPORTANT LEAGUE ANNOUNCEMENT! MUST READ!

[Chris (RI Irish)]

I've been on flea flicker before and I'm not a fan

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We have had, had multiple people offer to all go in on MFL... but FF is superior to ESPN and proboards. Everyone has suffered through this bag og dicks two sites since 2008... change is definitely needed... but I cant beleive that a change is not being even considered or being put up for vote! You dont want it voted on.. because you know that vote will not go in the direction you want. I will try and let you know if I want to continue to be part of this league any longer by the end of the day.

[Neil (OC Outlaws)]

Jun 26, 2014 11:25:04 GMT -6 @thenino said:

If you would have bothered to accept my invite and check out FF... specifically the message board.. I welcome everyone to what I say will "hopefully" be the new home of the USFL... I never told these guys it was 100% set in stone. Never once did I say that. I have always respected you two as the commish. But you would think when a majority of your league mates want a change.. you think you would at least check out the other side. Hell, I thought I was doing a nice and good, doing most of the work creating the other site for everyone to check out and consider. But fuck me right.. im just an asshole I guess. Most of the others thar have checked out the FF site have thanked me. But whatever... you will have my answer shortly about my tenure in this league... or kick me out.. at this point.. I dont really give a fuck.

Chill down fellas....sheesh!

Chris,

I see your point, but it seems around draft time this year the majority of the league concurred moving to a different site and ditching the 2 site approach. We are all fucking busy as we've all matured and grown since this league started up in 2008 (i.e. we don't have the time and desire to use ProBoards and update our rosters). Also, technology and our options for host sites has changed and evolved. Ryan simply took the initiative and set the league up on FF. He just presented what it could be like. He didn't try to take over the commish duties from you and Brad. Agree with you that he could of coordinated up front first but no big deal here....he was probably bored and said fuck it and set it up. Doesn't mean we have to use it or keep it there or move from here. Part of being a good leader is being a good listener and not thinking folks are trying to overrule you or Brad.

RMFD,

Chill down....no one wants you out of this league. Thanks for setting up the league on FF. BTW, can you please drop out of GEDL so the rest of us can have a chance ? JK!


Chris/Brad,

Can one of you guys setup a league poll whether to relocate to FF, go to MFL and pay annually (about $6 or $7 per team), or maintain the status quo with ESPN and Proboards?


FYI....I own Arian Foster and Run DMC...Derrick just hasn't cleaned up his roster on here is my guess. This was a 2014 trade between our teams. I can't help with A. Holmes and D. Rodgers.

Thanks in advance to all.

[Peter (Swamp Dragons)]

First off, no one is leaving, getting kicked out or whatever.

Secondly, there should be a poll put in to decide, AS A LEAGUE, if we stay, FF or MFL.

I agree that I hate having to update my rosters and I probably have the most free time. This is a fun league with a good bunch of guys so lets try to keep it going.

[Mike(FWF P1MPS)]

I am up for whatever we do as a group as I can adapt to any site..having said that I will say MFL is by far my favorite. I would hate to see anyone leave over this as I see a point on both sides.

[Rob (MN M357's)]

I hope nobody took my rant as anything more than just frustration with dealing with proboards. I respect all that it takes for Brad and Chris to run this league. In no way do i want to be the trouble maker, and i dont think anyone does at all. I really dig this league (It would be better if someone would trade me a WR for Ryan Matthews but ah well). I think we all want this league to be the best it can be, but the limitations that this setup is with dual sites i just know it could be better. Not to mention less of a hassle for the commishes. I think the fact that plenty of us are calling for a change shows the loyalty to this league. If it werent for playing against many of you i would have quit this league in a heartbeat over the limitations that the dual sites presents. Now, if there is a good enough reason that makes total sense to deny the wishes of the majority then i would understand, and i think thats the issue. Heck, if anything we can keep proboards running for trash talk, league records etc.. just have one main site that is official where trades and free agency moves can be made without having to deal with going thru two sites and double checking everything and hoping that rosters are legit and mishaps with dealing future picks.

Peter, i may have to debate ya on who has the most free time, my life is a hell of a lot less stressful this summer! After averaging 58 hours/week the last two years im getting a nice break

[Gregg(Seal Fuckers)]

things like me trading my 3rd wouldn't happen. It wouldn't have to be organized on a master sheet and on a board and on a fantasy site, the sites are nice and make things a hell of a lot easier. I say we vote, we always talked about doing what the vast majority says.

[Bill (Fog City Force)]

Agreed, there is no reason what so ever for anyone to quit, or be kicked out over this issue.

Ryan was simply implementing a thought shared by the majority of the league (which is to do away with having to deal with (2) sites for one league), I appreciate him taking the initiative. As I understand the situation, he was not trying to shove the new site down LM throats, but putting it out there for consideration, self performing all the data entry into the FF site, sparing LM that arduous responsibility.

I am also in agreement that one site that performs all tasks (i.e. tracks future draft picks) is the best direction for the USFL.

MFL is the best platform, hard for anyone to dispute that. In our GEDL League, Neil and I pay the entry fee ourselves each year (as it seems harder to collect the $ 5/6 $ from everyone....If Ryan doesn't stop winning we may make him pay a 1/3 share moving forward)......In order to switch over to MFL I'd be willing to pay the entry fee for this league every 12th year, if everyone else is willing to do the same?

If that doesn't work with the rest of the league, then I'd vote to switch over to the FF site.

Thanks!

[Gregg(Seal Fuckers)]

Jun 27, 2014 9:27:40 GMT -6 Bill (Fog City Force) said:

Agreed, there is no reason what so ever for anyone to quit, or be kicked out over this issue.

Ryan was simply implementing a thought shared by the majority of the league (which is to do away with having to deal with (2) sites for one league), I appreciate him taking the initiative. As I understand the situation, he was not trying to shove the new site down LM throats, but putting it out there for consideration, self performing all the data entry into the FF site, sparing LM that arduous responsibility.

I am also in agreement that one site that performs all tasks (i.e. tracks future draft picks) is the best direction for the USFL.

MFL is the best platform, hard for anyone to dispute that. In our GEDL League, Neil and I pay the entry fee ourselves each year (as it seems harder to collect the $ 5/6 $ from everyone....If Ryan doesn't stop winning we may make him pay a 1/3 share moving forward)......In order to switch over to MFL I'd be willing to pay the entry fee for this league every 12th year, if everyone else is willing to do the same?

If that doesn't work with the rest of the league, then I'd vote to switch over to the FF site.

Thanks!

I honestly wouldn't have an issue paying $20/year to help with the MFL cost.

[Mike(FWF P1MPS)]

I would pay whatever needed for MFL site

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I love playing with you guys... its a great group of owners. From the looks of things if this indeed did go to a vote, the league would be on the move for much bigger and better things (hopefully MFL or at least FF). That is if our mighty, great and powerful Fuhrer would allow us poor, pitiful, little peasants to actually voice an opinion. Am I speaking to loudly? I don't want him to here me. FUHRER IM SO SORRY.... NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! Anyway, I have decided that I am 100% done with the two website structure when there are clearly much much much better options out there that perform at a much much much higher level. Some free... some not so free... im good with pitching in on MFL or going with FF for the delicious price of... on the house. I would actually prefer the MFL move. I believe that way we could simply cut and past and keep the league history intact during the move. The only... and I stress the only way that I will continue to be a member of this league in its current format is if it is put to a vote and it the desire of the majority of my league mates that we continue to get fucked in the ass with a red hot poker... If the current format is forced on us. Then I am good as gone.... Its not fun this way, and I refuse to continue to give myself a headache. Sorry for turning this into a soap opera guys, but having my opinion brushed to the side after obviously caring about the league and being loyal to it for 6 or 7 years of my life is not something im down for. Im not even saying my opinion has to be taken into action... but to not be taken into any consideration simply because one fucking person does not share that opinion and has all "the power"... not gonna fly with me. If I do end up leaving or being removed from this league... then I will see most of you in other leagues that are ran on way better websites.

P.S. RUDY WAS OFFSIDES!!!!!!! #nodisrespect2P1MP #P1MPyourmyboyblue

[Deleted]

Hey fellas. Sorry for the delay, I've been on a bender.. on a lake, with sea doos and bikini clad women. As long as we can move forward and get to MFL.com or Fleaflicker, than I don't care. I'm in. Nobody should be leaving the league. This is a no-brainer. I can't imagine that LM would even need a vote to do this. Chris and Brad, do you honestly enjoy the 2 website and spreadsheet approach when a single website can handle it? I can't imagine this whole idea doesn't benefit you too more than any of us. I'm pay my share for MFL.com... 1/12th annually or whatever. Paypal... $5-6... done.

[Chris (RI Irish)]

First off,Ryan you are an asshole. The whole Hitler thing is the least funny thing you could ever say. I'm sure my grandparents who lost brothers in WWII,over in Germany,would think you are a complete douche,as I now do.
That being said,not once did I say we couldn't move the league or put it up to a vote. I said that I was not sick of the 2 websites and that I did not like flea flicker. Poor,poor Ryan,tell me when I said we could not do any of this? Brad and I run a couple of leagues together and we always talk about changes first,between the 2 of us,before we decide what to do,which includes putting stuff up for a vote. Brad has not chimed in on this at all,so slow you freaking role. I am ok with if we keep the two sites,but if everyone else wants to change,I will change. However,I don't really want to pay for anything since I already spend about $200 a year in leagues. I'm pretty sure the reason we use proboards is because it is free.

[Deleted]

Not the first time I have been called an asshole... and your grandparents can think whatever they like about me...

P.S. Your are a cunt.

[Deleted]

Jun 26, 2014 8:01:04 GMT -6 Chris (RI Irish) said:

its great that you feel that way,but since Brad and I run the league,its not really up to you.

Kinda sounds like you mean its not up for any type of debate... You might not have meant it that way.. but then again you took me making the league on FF as that I was announcing that the league was def on the move and according to your quote above... nothing is up to us. But as you said.. I am an asshole.. so what do i know.