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Post by Brad (Texas Hellfire) on Dec 2, 2008 13:21:26 GMT -6
We didn't have one all year, but Chris brought up a good point . . . what if there is a tie in a playoff game? He and I propose the following tie-breaking rules for playoff games only . . . the ties will be broken by awarding the team with the highest scorer in the starting lineup the win . . . if each team's highest scorer is still tied then it will go to each team's 2nd highest scorer and so on until a winner is determined. In the event that both teams have the same score AND each of their players is tied all the way down the starting roster then the higher seed will advance. Discussion may commence
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2008 16:12:23 GMT -6
Well, I'll first say this... I've never seen a tie in a fractional point system. So the likelihood of this happening is incredibly low. Personally, I think total bench points would be the best way to do it. I think after the big "uproar" we had about FA pickups in the playoffs, we'd hate to have the championship go to someone who picked up a 4th string RB who just happened to have 4 TD's. I realize the odds of that happening are pretty slim, but you never know. Basically, I'm all for eliminating as much "fluke factor" as possible when it comes to fantasy football. Case in point: McNabb and Westbrook both put up 4 TD's in a crucial week!
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Post by Chris (RI Irish) on Dec 2, 2008 16:37:22 GMT -6
I use a fractional scoring system in one of my money leagues and we had a tie two years ago. I don't like the bench points since some of us have guys on IR on our bench.
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Post by Peter (Swamp Dragons) on Dec 2, 2008 16:39:16 GMT -6
I have to say I'm for the total bench points myself since it is a dynasty league and we all have 30 players. It shows that we need to have a deep bench also. Not just for spot starts.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2008 16:48:02 GMT -6
After reading a topic on the diehards site... I'd like to again state that I think total points is the better tie breaker instead of H2H or divisional record.
Not suggesting a rule change for this year... but maybe something to re-visit after our draft.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2008 16:50:47 GMT -6
I use a fractional scoring system in one of my money leagues and we had a tie two years ago. I don't like the bench points since some of us have guys on IR on our bench. While not every team has one or more players on IR... I think we all have players who haven't played a down this year or had any fantasy relevance this year. With a 30 man roster, I think we all would have several players who aren't playing for one reason or another at this time of year.
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Post by johnboora on Dec 2, 2008 17:01:24 GMT -6
After reading a topic on the diehards site... I'd like to again state that I think total points is the better tie breaker instead of H2H or divisional record. Not suggesting a rule change for this year... but maybe something to re-visit after our draft. On this topic, I believe head to head should be the first tie breaker but I do like overall points as the next tie breaker. It just feels more indicative of the better fantasy team.
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Post by johnboora on Dec 2, 2008 17:09:17 GMT -6
On the topic of the tie breaker, i'm not a huge fan of the highest individual scorer on a team. I belive if two teams have a tie, then it should be broken by the team that had the best overall week and not the guy that happened to get 4 goal line carries for a score like Deangelo Williams. I like the bench idea but I can see the problem with it - injuries and young prospects with low playing time.
What if we decide it by the single highest scoring bench player on each team? That way it's like saying if we had started one more player it would be that guy and he would be the difference maker. If hell freezes over and those guys are tied, you just keep going down the list.
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Post by slackers on Dec 2, 2008 17:46:28 GMT -6
In my Fanball league we have an Overtime Player, Before Kickoff you lock in a single player and he doesn't contribute but in the event of a tie the highest scoring players decides the out come of the game.
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Post by Bill (Fog City Force) on Dec 2, 2008 18:16:04 GMT -6
I can honestly say it does not matter in any way to me. I would have to agree with Phish, that the likelyhood of a tie will be near impossible. With respect to Chris' league (2) years ago getting a tie, it is doubtful you had (11) starters.....
The OT player adds an interesting dynamic to the fun, although I'm not entirely sure how to carry that out properly? Doubtful ESPN will allow any such manuver? Seems like a lot to ask to go to this site in addition to ESPN before kick off???
Once again, I will run with the flow on this one...
Good luck all, Force
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Post by Neil (OC Outlaws) on Dec 2, 2008 22:29:13 GMT -6
I say that you must post your overtime player 15 minutes before kickoff on this site. That seems like the most reasonable to me. It shows team depth and potential.
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Post by johnboora on Dec 2, 2008 22:40:12 GMT -6
I say that you must post your overtime player 15 minutes before kickoff on this site. That seems like the most reasonable to me. It shows team depth and potential. And it still won't bring the Crush back onto this site!
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Post by Neil (OC Outlaws) on Dec 3, 2008 0:34:34 GMT -6
I say that you must post your overtime player 15 minutes before kickoff on this site. That seems like the most reasonable to me. It shows team depth and potential. And it still won't bring the Crush back onto this site! To bad we don't have the rolling around on the ground laughing emoticon. Guess we'll just have to fall back on our standby....Here's to you Crush...... my arse!! Don't worry guys...he never comes on the site. He won't be offended.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2008 1:03:48 GMT -6
Here is a copy of the Tiebreaker section of my Money League's Constitution. It has worked wonderfully w/ no complaints, and it gets rid of the inactive/IR problem. Game Tiebreakers: There will be no game that ends in a tie. If both teams are tied, the winner will be determined by the total points of their 5 highest scoring reserve players. Players on a bye or inactive are not counted. If a team does not have 5 or more players on reserve, which are not inactive or on a bye, then scores of a maximum equal number of active players from each reserve are totaled.
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Post by Peter (Swamp Dragons) on Dec 3, 2008 3:26:56 GMT -6
Here is a copy of the Tiebreaker section of my Money League's Constitution. It has worked wonderfully w/ no complaints, and it gets rid of the inactive/IR problem. Game Tiebreakers: There will be no game that ends in a tie. If both teams are tied, the winner will be determined by the total points of their 5 highest scoring reserve players. Players on a bye or inactive are not counted. If a team does not have 5 or more players on reserve, which are not inactive or on a bye, then scores of a maximum equal number of active players from each reserve are totaled. That makes sense.
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