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Post by Chris (RI Irish) on Apr 10, 2010 8:39:12 GMT -6
how I think the divisions should be set up is by last years points scored. points generally is the best way to determine how good a team actually is. this is what I have as far as divisons.Rank in points in ()
RED: Fog City(1) Hellfire(4) Outlaws(7) Cursh(10)
WHITE: Irish(2) Wildcats(5) Phish(8) Generals(11)
BLUE: Pimps(3) Undertow(6) Dragons(9) M357's(12)
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Post by Peter (Swamp Dragons) on Apr 10, 2010 9:06:24 GMT -6
how I think the divisions should be set up is by last years points scored. points generally is the best way to determine how good a team actually is. this is what I have as far as divisons.Rank in points in () RED: Fog City(1) Hellfire(4) Outlaws(7) Cursh(10) WHITE: Irish(2) Wildcats(5) Phish(8) Generals(11) BLUE: Pimps(3) Undertow(6) Dragons(9) M357's(12) That seems fair. Good job Chris. |
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Post by Bill (Fog City Force) on Apr 10, 2010 9:16:27 GMT -6
Bill . . . if we go with 7 out of division games then there will be a set procedure every year to determine the randomly not played team. The best one I can think of right now is to randomly take one division (roll a six sided die with two numbers assigned to each division) and go from top to bottom (by previous years ranking) rolling an 8 sided die and assigning teams that will not play each other. Once two teams from one division are randomly rolled then the other teams from that division are automatically disqualified (or we would get in-division skips) and coin flips will be used to determine opponents not played. The entire procedure will be lined out step by step determining who you do not play in a thread on the message board. The next year we go through the same process except that the team you didn't play last year must be on your schedule this year. That's the procedure as I envision it anyways. You will play every team every two years at a minimum, however the randomness could allow you play a certain team only once in three years and in an extreme case of luck only twice in 5 years. Thanks for the input Brad, I definitely like the idea of documenting the proceedure in a thread, so we can all be sure that step occurs as we set up for the new season. The problem with Double Headers is inevitably someone has a terrible week of injuries and will be stuck with 2 losses, which will be a problem? I've never played with Double Headers, if we did emply a double header the best option may be to use it in Week # 1 when everyone is still at full speed and there are no byes. That would at least allow us the play all teams outside the division 1 time w/o having to develop an extra proceedure for scheduling purposes? After writing this I still don't know how I feel about double headers? Definitely worth a bit more discussion IMO?? |
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Post by Bill (Fog City Force) on Apr 10, 2010 9:17:44 GMT -6
how I think the divisions should be set up is by last years points scored. points generally is the best way to determine how good a team actually is. this is what I have as far as divisons.Rank in points in () RED: Fog City(1) Hellfire(4) Outlaws(7) Cursh(10) WHITE: Irish(2) Wildcats(5) Phish(8) Generals(11) BLUE: Pimps(3) Undertow(6) Dragons(9) M357's(12) That seems fair. Good job Chris. Reasonable, but from a simple mathmatical perspective shouldn't all three divisions add to the same #? Red = 22 White = 26 Blue = 30 It would seem all three could equal 26? I am assuming that each year the three divisions would be re-assigned based on the prior years points, and the teams would be inserted accordingly, once again with each division adding up to 26 points?? Please clarify your intent with that LM? |
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Post by Chris (RI Irish) on Apr 10, 2010 9:22:47 GMT -6
I am not sure why they should add up. I thought this was the most SIMPLE and fair way to go about setting up divisions.
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Post by Gregg(Seal Fuckers) on Apr 10, 2010 12:43:56 GMT -6
this has been a two year leauge, why take one year sample of points when its easier for two years, i am not sure if it would change much. But one year seems way to small of a sample size to use, even tho we only have 2 years
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Post by Brad (Texas Hellfire) on Apr 10, 2010 13:22:54 GMT -6
The key is that once these divisions are set they will be that way forever. Currently I am a fan of 3 divisions and 4 playoff teams with everyone playing everyone. It is the simplest and easiest to implement solution.
The divisions should be assigned snake style based of of total points for the last two years.
1, 6, 7, 12; 2, 5, 8, 11; 3, 4, 9, 10
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Post by Neil (OC Outlaws) on Apr 10, 2010 13:45:49 GMT -6
The key is that once these divisions are set they will be that way forever. Currently I am a fan of 3 divisions and 4 playoff teams with everyone playing everyone. It is the simplest and easiest to implement solution. The divisions should be assigned snake style based of of total points for the last two years. 1, 6, 7, 12; 2, 5, 8, 11; 3, 4, 9, 10 IMO, this makes the most sense. It spreads the talent equally between all three divisions, and each division summed up is the same number-26. That was Bill's point and it was correct. Nice job Brad! |
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Post by Brad (Texas Hellfire) on Apr 10, 2010 13:48:33 GMT -6
After adding it up then the divisions would be:
1) Undertow, Wildcats, Dragons, M357
2) Irish, Hellfire, Outlaws, Gregg's Team
3) Force, Pimps, Jedi (Phish), Crush
If everyone is acceptable to that proposal . . . 3 divisions, 4 playoff teams, static divisions.
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Post by Bill (Fog City Force) on Apr 10, 2010 14:06:25 GMT -6
Works fine for me Brad! Just happy I can spank P1MP 2 times each season ! ;D
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Post by Bill (Fog City Force) on Apr 10, 2010 14:10:19 GMT -6
Just to be clear for all Brad, each division winner obviously makes it to the playoffs, how is the 4th declared? Does this mean the season is 14 weeks long so we end up playing our division mates 2 times per year and everyone else 1 time?
Thanks!
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Post by Brad (Texas Hellfire) on Apr 10, 2010 15:10:02 GMT -6
You hit the nail on the head Bill. 3 division champs and a true wild card because everyone will have played everyone else at least once. The team with the best record that doesn't win a division will make the playoffs and play the team with the best record in the league. We would have to make a decision about division foes in the first round of the playoffs. We could do it like baseball does. Or whatever.
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Post by Neil (OC Outlaws) on Apr 10, 2010 21:20:12 GMT -6
You hit the nail on the head Bill. 3 division champs and a true wild card because everyone will have played everyone else at least once. The team with the best record that doesn't win a division will make the playoffs and play the team with the best record in the league. We would have to make a decision about division foes in the first round of the playoffs. We could do it like baseball does. Or whatever. This is exactly what one of my other dynasty leagues does and it works just fine! Nice work LM! Oh yeah...got lucky and won that league last year as the Wildcard...  I was one of the top three teams though. One of the division winners sucked. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2010 2:23:20 GMT -6
You hit the nail on the head Bill. 3 division champs and a true wild card because everyone will have played everyone else at least once. The team with the best record that doesn't win a division will make the playoffs and play the team with the best record in the league. We would have to make a decision about division foes in the first round of the playoffs. We could do it like baseball does. Or whatever. If we still want 6 teams to make the playoffs, and play everyone at least once (like we should) we could have a doubleheader during week 2 or 3 when there are no bye weeks, most players are healthy, and flukey week 1 (and sometimes week 2) outcomes are avoided for double trouble. I have never played double headers, but I am down to try it out. I am also cool with just the 3 division winners and 1 wildcard format, but either way we will be playing every team each year. I also think it is a good idea to reorganize the divisions every year or every 2 years to maintain parity. What if all four teams in one division ends up sucking ass in a few years? We could end up with a division winner posting like a 5-9 or 6-8 record and that would be stupid, especially if only 4 teams make the playoffs. |
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Post by Mike(FWF P1MPS) on Apr 11, 2010 8:53:58 GMT -6
I'm down with whatever
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I was one of the top three teams though. One of the division winners sucked.